Seeking parentage of Dirk Wesseling of 18th century Enschede

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Re: Seeking parentage of Dirk Wesseling of 18th century Enschede

Bericht door ria jongman » 13 mar 2022, 18:57

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Notariële akte Dirk Wesseling Getuige Beverwijk 1743-05-31

In deze akte wordt Dirk Wesselink samen met Gerrit van der Beek opgeroepen als getuigen van een ruzie.
Hij is volgens eigen verklaring dan omtrent 28 jaar oud en woont in Beverwijk.

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Re: Seeking parentage of Dirk Wesseling of 18th century Enschede

Bericht door Egbert_ » 13 mar 2022, 19:26

ria jongman schreef:
13 mar 2022, 18:51
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Anna Geertrui Paschen die 2x [nl in 1741 en 1747] doopgetuige is bij de kinderen van Dirk Wesseling komt ook uit Enschede.
Ze is te Amsterdam getrouwd met Gerrit Swam op 28 okt 1712 en ze is de dochter van Hendrik Paschen en Jannetje Wissink
Dit volgens het Twentebestand

en vermoedelijk hertrouwt met Harmanus Blok?
In the book of baptisms of the Reformed Church at Haarlem, for as far as I have checked, the witnesses where always married couples.

So, in 1741: witnesses: Hermanus Blok and his wife Anna Geertrui Paasen.

link wedding of Gerrit Swam:
https://archief.amsterdam/indexen/deeds ... 222f94b70b

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Re: Seeking parentage of Dirk Wesseling of 18th century Enschede

Bericht door Steve Barnhoorn » 13 mar 2022, 22:06

Hi:

I found this item where Dirck Wesseling appeared as a baptismal witness, for his nephew:

Dopen of Dirk, son of Jan Wesseling en Marijtje Bol on 26 September 1770 (Nederlands Hervormde Kerk):
See here: https://www.wiewaswie.nl/nl/detail/50307948

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Re: Seeking parentage of Dirk Wesseling of 18th century Enschede

Bericht door Egbert_ » 13 mar 2022, 22:49

ria jongman schreef:
13 mar 2022, 18:57
bericht 5

Notariële akte Dirk Wesseling Getuige Beverwijk 1743-05-31

In deze akte wordt Dirk Wesselink samen met Gerrit van der Beek opgeroepen als getuigen van een ruzie.
Hij is volgens eigen verklaring dan omtrent 28 jaar oud en woont in Beverwijk.
The description belongs to a document of 01-05-1740. Dirk Wesseling was 28 in 1740.

https://www.wiewaswie.nl/nl/detail/108118684

scan:
https://noord-hollandsarchief.nl/bronne ... miview=ldt
select image no 93

There is also this document:
https://www.wiewaswie.nl/nl/detail/108118825
follow the link: naar bron
select image no 34 (and 35)

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Re: Seeking parentage of Dirk Wesseling of 18th century Enschede

Bericht door Egbert_ » 13 mar 2022, 23:12

Steve Barnhoorn schreef:
13 mar 2022, 22:06
I found this item where Dirck Wesseling appeared as a baptismal witness, for his nephew:

Dopen of Dirk, son of Jan Wesseling en Marijtje Bol on 26 September 1770 (Nederlands Hervormde Kerk):
See here: https://www.wiewaswie.nl/nl/detail/50307948
Hi Steve,

In the introduction you presented seven baptisms. Could you please inform us, which is your ancestor?

And also some more data on that ancestor, like marriage and following ancestor?

I noticed several persons with the last name Wesseling were born in Germany and settled in Haarlem. So, it's easy to mix up, en connect the wrong persons to each other. Only after 1811 there was a more organized population administration, and surnames were introduced for every citizen. So, it would help us searching, if you could provide (some info from a) document of one of your ancestors after 1811.

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Re: Seeking parentage of Dirk Wesseling of 18th century Enschede

Bericht door ria jongman » 13 mar 2022, 23:48

There's also an baptist of Derk Wesseling married with Gerritje NN -witness Geertruij van Veen
daughter Geertrui on 03-06-1778 Haarlem NG
Laatst gewijzigd door ria jongman op 14 mar 2022, 12:10, 1 keer totaal gewijzigd.

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Re: Seeking parentage of Dirk Wesseling of 18th century Enschede

Bericht door Steve Barnhoorn » 14 mar 2022, 02:06

Hi Egbert:

I am descended from Catharina Wesseling, dopen 14 July 1745 (Nederlands Hervormde Kerk)
Witnesses: Henrik Bol en Maria Reimeij
See here: https://www.wiewaswie.nl/nl/detail/50325581

To save some time, I am going to copy and paste a Family Group sheet that shows who she married and children:

Name: Jan HOENDERDOS/HUNDERDOSSE
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Baptism: 30 Jan 1737
Birth Place: Quakenbrück, Hannover, Preußen, Germany
Burial Date: 2 Feb 1798
Burial Place: Haarlem, Noord Holland, Netherlands
Religion: Evangelisch Lutherse
Marriage Date: 17 Apr 1768
Marriage Place: Haarlem, Noord Holland, Netherlands
Father: Johann HUNDERDOSSE
Mother: Anna Catharina aus den WOHLE
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Spouse: Catharina WESSELING
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Birth Date: 11 Jul 1745
Birth Place: Haarlem, Noord Holland, Netherlands
Christen Date: 14 Jul 1745
Christen Place: Haarlem, Noord Holland, Netherlands
Witnesses: Hendrik BOL and Maria REIMEIJ.
Religion: Dutch Reformed
Father: Dirk WESSELING (1712-aft 1770)
Mother: Bartha BOUWMANS (1710-brd. 1766)

Children:
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1 F: Helena HOENDERDOS
Christen Date: 12 Jul 1771
Christen Place: Haarlem, Noord Holland, Netherlands
Witnesses: Barend HOENDERDORST and Trijntje DE RUITER.
Death Date: 6 Dec 1816
Death Place: Spaarnwoude, Noord Holland, Netherlands
Religion: Evangelisch Lutherse
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2 M: Jan Jurriaan HOENDERDOS (Died as Infant)
Christen Date: 2 Aug 1772
Christen Place: Haarlem, Noord Holland, Netherlands
Witnesses: Court MEYER and Anna Eilzab. POST.
Religion: Evangelisch Lutherse
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3 M: Jan HOENDERDOS
Christen Date: 6 Jan 1774
Christen Place: Haarlem, Noord Holland, Netherlands
Witnesses: Jan WESTWINKEL and Catharina WESTWINKEL.
Religion: Evangelisch Lutherse
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4 M: Jurriaan HOENDERDOS
Christen Date: 8 Jan 1775
Christen Place: Haarlem, Noord Holland, Netherlands
Witnesses: Johannes Rudolph SEGELKE and Petronella DORICK.
Religion: Evangelisch Lutherse
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5 M: Hendrik Janse HOENDERDOS
Christen Date: 6 Aug 1777
Christen Place: Haarlem, Noord Holland, Netherlands
Witnesses: Hendrik MEYER and Elisabeth PAUST.
Death Date: 11 Aug 1812
Death Place: Spaarndam, Noord Holland, Netherlands
Education: Able to sign own name
Religion: Evangelisch Lutherse
Spouse: Mietje COENEN
Marriage Date: 26 May 1799
Marriage Place: Haarlemmerliede, Noord Holland, Netherlands
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6 M: Evert HOENDERDOS
Christen Date: 9 May 1779
Christen Place: Haarlem, Noord Holland, Netherlands
Witness: Maria VALK.
Religion: Evangelisch Lutherse

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Hendrik Janse HOENDERDOS (177-1812) , son of Jan and Catharina is also my ancestor.

Hope this answers your question. By the way, thank you for clarifying Dirk Wesseling's age. That means he was born about 1712.

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Re: Seeking parentage of Dirk Wesseling of 18th century Enschede

Bericht door Daan » 14 mar 2022, 11:00

Dit misschien de vader van Dirk.
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Re: Seeking parentage of Dirk Wesseling of 18th century Enschede

Bericht door Egbert_ » 14 mar 2022, 12:09

Thanks for sharing!

There is one thing I noticed:
Steve Barnhoorn schreef:
14 mar 2022, 02:06
Spouse: Mietje COENEN
Marriage Date: 26 May 1799
Marriage Place: Haarlemmerliede, Noord Holland, Netherlands
She died on 23-05-1822 at Spaarndam.
https://www.wiewaswie.nl/nl/detail/27827871

Here name was changed from Mietje Coenen to Truijtje Poot due to a court decision in 17-02-1829.
This is not unusual at that time. In most times it was the result of finding acts concerning a marriage. And as a result of this search, names, mostly female, where changed.

The date of 17-02-1829 suggests a marriage of one of her offspring. Most likely the marriage of Gerrit Hoenderdos and Christina de Jong on 01-03-1829. https://www.wiewaswie.nl/nl/detail/31955197

Most likely there will be attachments to this marriage document. In dutch: huwelijkse bijlagen.

Are these known to you?

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Kan iemand de, vermoedelijk, huwelijks bijlagen vinden bij het trouwen van Gerrit Hoenderdos en Christina de Jong op 01-03-1829 in Haarlemmerliede?

Aanvulling: gevonden https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=2020117
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Re: Seeking parentage of Dirk Wesseling of 18th century Enschede

Bericht door ria jongman » 14 mar 2022, 13:18

Egbert_ schreef:
13 mar 2022, 19:26
In the book of baptisms of the Reformed Church at Haarlem, for as far as I have checked, the witnesses where always married couples.

So, in 1741: witnesses: Hermanus Blok and his wife Anna Geertrui Paasen.

link wedding of Gerrit Swam:
https://archief.amsterdam/indexen/deeds ... 222f94b70b
Waar is dan het huwelijk van dit stel?
Dan zou je kunnen controleren of zij als weduwe trouwt.

Gerrit Swam is namelijk te Amsterdam begraven op 24 jan 1715 als Gerrit Swan

Bij de doop van zijn zoon Gerrit heet de vader ook Swan, voornaam Gerret
- moeder Anna Geertruij Pasen
doopgetuige Catrina Swan en haar vader Hendrik Daniel Pasen

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