Seeking parentage of Dirk Wesseling of 18th century Enschede
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Jurriaan is buried pro deo, you noticed?
Jurrien married in 1741 and Egbert found this
Lidmaatboek kersttijd (around christmas) 1738, Jurgen Wesselink van Geern uit het Osnabrugse
so could it be?
Jurrien married in 1741 and Egbert found this
Lidmaatboek kersttijd (around christmas) 1738, Jurgen Wesselink van Geern uit het Osnabrugse
so could it be?
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Re: Seeking parentage of Dirk Wesseling of 18th century Enschede
Hi Ria:Jurriaan is buried pro deo, you noticed?
Jurrien married in 1741 and Egbert found this
Lidmaatboek kersttijd (around christmas) 1738, Jurgen Wesselink van Geern uit het Osnabrugse
Yes, I noticed that. Since I haven't found Jurrien in the baptismal registers after 1760, it's entirely possible this is the man. However, the age given at his death may be incorrect. In the past, I have often found instances where the ages at death don't always match up with their birth or baptism date. I am inclined to conclude Jurrien was the one who was baptized in 1714 at Gehrde, appeared in the Lidmaatboek kersttijd (around christmas) 1738, married in 1741 to Lena Lammers, married again in 1750 to Anna Abbison. Both you and Egbert have already posted the baptisms of their children. At his death, Jurrien would have been around 48, not 37 as recorded in the burial register.
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30-10-1763
Jurriaan Hendrik Wesseling jm van Geerde
Maria Bante jd van Haarlem
familysearch image 560
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cat=293741
Jurriaan Hendrik Wesseling jm van Geerde
Maria Bante jd van Haarlem
familysearch image 560
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cat=293741
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Could this burial refer to this child?Jurriaan Wesseling W:N: uit het land van Osnabrugge, Anna Abbison J:D: van Durgelo?? in Gelderland
10-12-1751, baptism of Femmetje, witnesses Hendrk ???heuvel and Johanna Addison
Burial recorded on 5 November 1763 for Femmetje Wesseling. Does it look like age 11 years?
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=2037985
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Yes, is correct
11jr 11m = 11 jaar en 11 maanden oud, overleden aan de thering
11jr 11m = 11 jaar en 11 maanden oud, overleden aan de thering
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Concerning Juriaan Wesseling. The more I am thinking about that 1762 burial entry I found, I believe it has to do with this Juriaan:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cat=220979
Burial for a Jurriaan Wesseling on 2 January 1762, age 37:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=2037985
Based on this information, the baptism and burial dates appear to match up. The burial date for Juriaan, baptized in 1714 at Gehrde and married twice in 1741 and again in 1750, is yet to be found.
Jürgen Gerd baptism on 8 May 1725:ria jongman » Evert Wesseling married possibly for the second time with An Cathrin Rauh:
baptist an son named Jürgen Gerd on 8 IV 1725 [scan nr 519]
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cat=220979
Burial for a Jurriaan Wesseling on 2 January 1762, age 37:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=2037985
Based on this information, the baptism and burial dates appear to match up. The burial date for Juriaan, baptized in 1714 at Gehrde and married twice in 1741 and again in 1750, is yet to be found.
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What's also interesting is I found Lena Lammer's burial recorded in the (NG) registers:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cat=293771
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cat=293771
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This book called begraafboek and you were searching in the book kosten begraven [do you have to pay or not]
I've searched in the book kosten begraven scan 300 [dd 09-08-1769] t/m 400 [dd 02-11-1774] and I didn't find Jurrien Wesseling.
Just others Wesseling but they do not belong.
I've searched in the book kosten begraven scan 300 [dd 09-08-1769] t/m 400 [dd 02-11-1774] and I didn't find Jurrien Wesseling.
Just others Wesseling but they do not belong.
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Hi Ria:
Thanks for looking.
And I couldn't find any entries for Jurrien's second wife either. This makes me wonder: Did they leave Haarlem for a neighboring municipality? Bennenbroek, Spaarndam, Spaarnwoude? Both Jurrien and wife Anna showed up as baptism witnesses for their niece (Anna, daughter of Hendrik Lauhuijver and Johanna Aberson) on 29 August 1751 in Bennebroek https://www.wiewaswie.nl/nl/detail/76007235
Incidentally, I found this burial entry for one of Jurrien's children in the (NG) register:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cat=293771
The above matches the one I found in the begraven book from November 1763 for Femmetje Wesseling:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=2037985
The important point is Jurrien was alive when her daughter died. In the church book, she is referred to as "kind van Jurrije Wesslin." As you can see, the word "wijlen" does not appear before Jurrien's name.
Thanks for looking.
And I couldn't find any entries for Jurrien's second wife either. This makes me wonder: Did they leave Haarlem for a neighboring municipality? Bennenbroek, Spaarndam, Spaarnwoude? Both Jurrien and wife Anna showed up as baptism witnesses for their niece (Anna, daughter of Hendrik Lauhuijver and Johanna Aberson) on 29 August 1751 in Bennebroek https://www.wiewaswie.nl/nl/detail/76007235
Incidentally, I found this burial entry for one of Jurrien's children in the (NG) register:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cat=293771
The above matches the one I found in the begraven book from November 1763 for Femmetje Wesseling:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=2037985
The important point is Jurrien was alive when her daughter died. In the church book, she is referred to as "kind van Jurrije Wesslin." As you can see, the word "wijlen" does not appear before Jurrien's name.
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Re: Seeking parentage of Dirk Wesseling of 18th century Enschede
Anna Aberson - is she the same person?
doop Anna Antonia - Vader Coenraad Scheffers
Moeder Margrieta Louhuijver
Getuige Antonie van Efferik
Getuige Anna Aberson
Gebeurtenis Doop
Datum 12-12-1794
Religie Hervormd
Documenttype
DTB Dopen
Erfgoedinstelling
Stadsarchief Amsterdam
Plaats instelling Amsterdam
Collectiegebied Noord-Holland
Archief 5001
Registratienummer 113
Aktenummer DTB 113
Pagina p.341(folio 171), nr.14
Registratiedatum 12-12-1794
Akteplaats Amsterdam
Collectie Deel: 113, Periode: 1786-1802
Boek DTB Dopen
Opmerking Kerk: Westerkerk <a
doop Anna Antonia - Vader Coenraad Scheffers
Moeder Margrieta Louhuijver
Getuige Antonie van Efferik
Getuige Anna Aberson
Gebeurtenis Doop
Datum 12-12-1794
Religie Hervormd
Documenttype
DTB Dopen
Erfgoedinstelling
Stadsarchief Amsterdam
Plaats instelling Amsterdam
Collectiegebied Noord-Holland
Archief 5001
Registratienummer 113
Aktenummer DTB 113
Pagina p.341(folio 171), nr.14
Registratiedatum 12-12-1794
Akteplaats Amsterdam
Collectie Deel: 113, Periode: 1786-1802
Boek DTB Dopen
Opmerking Kerk: Westerkerk <a