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Looks like Anna was around in 1794.

Steve Barnhoorn schreef: ↑

24 mar 2022, 01:57

And I couldn't find any entries for Jurrien's second wife either. This makes me wonder: Did they leave Haarlem for a neighboring municipality? Bennenbroek, Spaarndam, Spaarnwoude? Both Jurrien and wife Anna showed up as baptism witnesses for their niece (Anna, daughter of Hendrik Lauhuijver and Johanna Aberson) on 29 August 1751 in Bennebroek https://www.wiewaswie.nl/nl/detail/76007235

Indeed, and evenso it's look like Jurrien is died before 1770 because Jurrien is never a baptist witness daughter Catharina her children

Steve Barnhoorn schreef: ↑

24 mar 2022, 01:57

The above matches the one I found in the begraven book from November 1763 for Femmetje Wesseling:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=2037985

The important point is Jurrien was alive when her daughter died. In the church book, she is referred to as "kind van Jurrije Wesslin." As you can see, the word "wijlen" does not appear before Jurrien's name.

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I saw in other burial notes that when the father is not alive, appaers the word 'wijlen' - or burial note ; the child of the widow of
I think he was still alive at that time

ria jongman » 23 and 25 mar 2022

I've searched in the book kosten begraven scan 300 [dd 09-08-1769] t/m 400 [dd 02-11-1774] and I didn't find Jurrien Wesseling.

it's looks like Jurrien died before 1770 because Jurrien is never a baptist witness daughter Catharina her children.

First, thanks for searching the registers. You are correct, Jurrien was not present as a witness for the baptisms of daughter Catharina's children. I searched the period 1763 (date of daughter's burial) through 09-08-1769, no entries for Jurrien.

Jurrien married twice, he was the father of three children [with his first wife] en also three children with his second wife. In the burials or marriages there's nothing to find about these children except Cathrina. She married in Haarlem, but none of her brothers or her sister were witness. If they died why can't we find their burials in Haarlem. I looked until 30 juli 1777. Or their marriage?.
Very strange.
What do you know about Westwinkel en the other witnesses?

Very strange.
What do you know about Westwinkel en the other witnesses?

Not too much on those families except I think some of them were from the same part of Germany as the Wesselings. There seems to be a huge influx of families migrating to Haarlem. Wonder what the circumstances were?

But you're right: very strange I can't find any further traces of Catharina's siblings. In fact, I could not find a burial record for Catharina.

Lidmaatboek Lutherse kerk
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1770 Johan Herman Hunderdos en Catharina Wesseling - echtelieden op attestatie van Edam

https://noord-hollandsarchief.nl/bronne ... nv2#inv3t1

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Luthers lidmaatboek -

op scan 585
Paschen 1767
Berend Hendrik Wesling van Gehrde

op scan 580
1764 - Catrina Wesseling van Haarlem

op scan 578
okt. 1763 Jurgen Hendrik Wessling van Geerden

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julij 1762 Johan Harmen Wesling van Geerden

op scan 106 kersttijd 1751
Gerhard Johannes Wesseling jm van Geerde

op scan 103
25-03-1750 Johannes Wesseling jm van Haarlem

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Monnikendam

https://proxy.archieven.nl/131/05F6F598 ... 4AB08BE3C7

op scan 22 -

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Steve Barnhoorn schreef: ↑

19 mar 2022, 01:29

This is the death record for Hendrik Jansz Hoenderdos, my direct ancestor. The record names his parents, folio 3:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cat=293850

Here should been written the name of the wife of Hendrik Jans Hoenderson and it isn't.
So he was not married.
So how he can be your ancestor?